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#26 Dr Zhivago

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Posted 20 March 2016 - 10:28 PM

I think there is a good player in Joe McKee, I think he has only just started to believe in himself and grown up a bit.

Some talented young players just get lost and never get their game to anuvva level. They just get shunted around positionally and shunted around clubs.

Maybe he likes big pitches, but I think there is more to him than that. I think give him responsibility and he might develop the right attitude, especially if we don't get the old Tidser back.

 

I think Stef gets a raw deal half the time; I think he doesn't hide and puts in a shift. I think half the problem with Stef this year, particularly early on, was Denny had no left foot and couldn't deal with any ball coming in from Stef.

I would keep him too.

 

I don't think we need many players, other to replace the loanees we'll lose, and maybe some of our youngsters are ready to step up?

Sounds like McMullan is quite good, does he stay n til next season or is it just a 2/3 month deal?

 

As far as I am concerned, next season is about being in the top four -all year.

 

Next season could possibly be an even tougher league than this season, as there's unlikely to be the 'safety net' to avoid relegation that Alloa have provided.

 

We could have a league which includes Dundee Utd, Hibs, St Mirren, Kilmarnock, Raith, QoS, Dunfermline.  Unless there is substantial investment, which I can't see the Rae's providing, then it will be a real struggle to be in the top 4.  

 

I'd like to see Livvy go down, with Ayr Utd taking their place. Must be a long time since the second tier of Scottish football featured the Renfrewshire, Ayrshire and Fife derbies.



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Posted 20 March 2016 - 10:37 PM

Next season could possibly be an even tougher league than this season, as there's unlikely to be the 'safety net' to avoid relegation that Alloa have provided.

 

We could have a league which includes Dundee Utd, Hibs, St Mirren, Kilmarnock, Raith, QoS, Dunfermline.  Unless there is substantial investment, which I can't see the Rae's providing, then it will be a real struggle to be in the top 4.  

 

I'd like to see Livvy go down, with Ayr Utd taking their place. Must be a long time since the second tier of Scottish football featured the Renfrewshire, Ayrshire and Fife derbies.

 

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 09:17 AM

I can't see there being wholesale changes this pre-season other than the enforced losses of Johnstone, Gasparotto, McManus, Samuel and McMullan with the latter two not having made a sustained impact on the season anyway. Luca has been in and out the side due to injury and McManus, while a class act has only played half the season. Denny's goals will be hard to replace next season but Duffy has shown a great eye for loan signings by and large over the past 2 seasons and hopefully there will be other young players keen to spend a season scoring goals at Cappielow having seen the successes of Johnstone and McManus. It's disappointing that Barr is leaving but offering 2 year deals at any club at this level can be a risk, just look at Tidser, Peaso, Cham, Caraux etc.

We have consolidated very well in a division that we sunk without trace from 2 years ago and I think sweeping changes to the squad is unnecessary and would undo a lot of the great team spiritthat has been evident over the past couple of seasons.

Russell, Tidser and Gaston are already signed up, but in addition I'd hold onto: Kilday, Lamie, O'Ware, McKee, Forbes, McCluskey, Pepper and Scullion. I assume that the development squad players who have appeared this season will be staying on but that still only leaves 10 players (Scullion not included as he has not made much of an impact this season) which leaves plenty room for the addition of 4 or 5 players as contracted players of loan signings. It is also possible that some of hose players might be offered deals elsewhere or in Russell's case be subjected to transfer bids.

Things have not worked out for Peaso, McKeown or Miller this season and I would let them go when their contracts expire.
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#29 tolmie perms r bak

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 11:38 AM

think we need big changes for next season as our better players are made up of loan signings and will be heading back to there clubs , got to think that duffy has sounded players he wants but the problem will be is they will be offering 1yr deals and we will end up with  the barr situation again



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Posted 21 March 2016 - 01:05 PM

If half the team (and the better half at that) leaving doesn't constitute wholesale changes I'm not sure what does.

Edited by garymcc1874, 21 March 2016 - 01:05 PM.

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 01:49 PM

Bit difficult for any manager to plan for next season if he doesn't know whether or not he will be able to get loan players back again.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Denny back as although he's improving, he's certainly not ready for the English Championship.  I doubt Samuel would fancy another season sitting on the bench and I assume Dec will be back at Fleetwood, so we are certainly going to have to find some strikers.

 

I hope we're sounding out Luca but I suspect he will find a team at a higher level unfortunately.


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Posted 21 March 2016 - 02:04 PM

Bit difficult for any manager to plan for next season if he doesn't know whether or not he will be able to get loan players back again.  I wouldn't be surprised to see Denny back as although he's improving, he's certainly not ready for the English Championship.  I doubt Samuel would fancy another season sitting on the bench and I assume Dec will be back at Fleetwood, so we are certainly going to have to find some strikers.

 

I hope we're sounding out Luca but I suspect he will find a team at a higher level unfortunately.

 

I don't really expect McManus to play for Fleetwood again, I'd also be surprised if he was with us next season. I can him going to a more ambitious club in Scotland... lower SPL or bigger Championship club that are offering two year contracts.



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Posted 21 March 2016 - 02:14 PM

I don't really expect McManus to play for Fleetwood again, I'd also be surprised if he was with us next season. I can him going to a more ambitious club in Scotland... lower SPL or bigger Championship club that are offering two year contracts.


If we had to offer him a 2 year contract to get him, I'm sure we would.

We do push the boat out when we really want a player, Tidser, Peaso, retaining Gaston etc
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Posted 21 March 2016 - 04:36 PM

Agree with that, and DDF loves Dece so I can see it happening (as long as DDF is still pulling the strings, of course.)


Now before Gavin goes, I'd like to ask him one more question.


Do you like Abba?


#35 Nickaton

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 06:48 PM

even the management team are all out of contract. so how can we sort out who's staying.
We only have 3 signed players.

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Posted 21 March 2016 - 09:51 PM

I don't really expect McManus to play for Fleetwood again

 

Based on what exactly, given that Fleetwood have no idea what level they'll be playing at next season?


The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before..

So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are


#37 barrheadton

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 08:43 PM

Goodwin has fallen out with Rae at St. Mirren. Most skunks think he will be off at end of season. Worth a punt ? Apalling disciplinary record but we really need a hard man in there. We're too nice.



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Posted 26 March 2016 - 08:51 PM

Think I'd rather see Adam Johnson playing for us tbh.


The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before..

So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are


#39 TheGoon

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 09:00 PM

Goodwin has fallen out with Rae at St. Mirren. Most skunks think he will be off at end of season. Worth a punt ? Apalling disciplinary record but we really need a hard man in there. We're too nice.


Hahahahaha. **** off Jim.

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 09:11 PM

A few years ago Goodwin might have been worth considering but he's finished. All you'd have would be suspensions every other week.

This ugly, vulgar, hard, hermetic, hardly eye-catching, hardly football style...if they win with this they got satisfaction, fine, but they ended up losing.

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#41 RyanTON

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 09:53 PM

Keep: Gaston, Russell, Luca*, Lamie, Forbes, Tidser, McCluskey, Scullion, Denny*, McManus* & Samuel*

*Only if we can get them even getting one or two of them back would be brilliant. I would prioritise Luca though he's a class act.

The rest can get in the sea.

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 09:56 PM

Keep: Gaston, Russell, Luca*, Lamie, Forbes, Tidser, McCluskey, Scullion, Denny*, McManus* & Samuel*

*Only if we can get them even getting one or two of them back would be brilliant. I would prioritise Luca though he's a class act.

The rest can get in the sea.


Would keep both, but if I had to choose between McKee and Forbes I'd keep McKee - similar attributes going forward, but McKee more consistent and better at winning the ball back.

#43 Deego

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 10:03 PM

Would keep both, but if I had to choose between McKee and Forbes I'd keep McKee - similar attributes going forward, but McKee more consistent and better at winning the ball back.


Also fitter. But you know that.

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 10:05 PM

Would keep both, but if I had to choose between McKee and Forbes I'd keep McKee - similar attributes going forward, but McKee more consistent and better at winning the ball back.


McKee is anything but consistent. Impressed me on a few occasions this season and shown he can be a good player but more often than not he disappears. I'd rather we used his wages to get someone else in. Forbes even though he hasn't been great recently is still much better than McKee.

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 10:14 PM

McKee is anything but consistent. Impressed me on a few occasions this season and shown he can be a good player but more often than not he disappears. I'd rather we used his wages to get someone else in. Forbes even though he hasn't been great recently is still much better than McKee.


Fair enough - for me, McKee has been pretty consistent since coming into the side this season. But I like both and hope we keep both.

#46 RyanTON

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 10:17 PM

Fair enough - for me, McKee has been pretty consistent since coming into the side this season. But I like both and hope we keep both.


Last season I never rated McKee at all but he has impressed this season just hasn't done it often enough imo. I actually wouldn't mind keeping McKee as a squad player but if I had to chose between him and Forbes then I'd pick the latter.

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 10:18 PM

Get rid of both - perfectly straightforward stuff.

The site is supposed to be a place for the extended 'family' of Morton supporters - having an affinity with people that you don't know, because you share a love of your local football club. It's not supposed to be about point scoring and showing how 'clever' or 'funny' you are, or just being downright rude and offensive to people you don't know, because you can get away with it. Unfortunately, it seems the classic case of people who have little standing/presence in real life, use this forum as a way of making themselves feel as if they are something. It's sad, and I've said that before..

So, having been on Morton forums for about 15 years I guess, I've had enough... well done t*ssers, another Morton supporter driven away. You can all feel happy at how 'clever' you are


#48 Deego

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Posted 26 March 2016 - 10:21 PM

Get rid of both - perfectly straightforward stuff.


Many games you seen this season?

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Posted 27 March 2016 - 01:22 AM

McKinnon has put together a decent team which he will be able to keep most of next season augmented by the likes of Barr, who, looking at how they looked to play on the break today will improve them.

If we continue with McKee and Forbes in a flat 442 next season, we will not improve. I would start McKee in front of Forbes, who is simply unfit for purpose. Talk of Routledge? Fine, but without the front four and Luca, we need to change our shape.
Samuel coming on in a wide position? Give the boy a chance! He is a striker!
Morton fans are seen as hard to please. Give us something to get behind ffs!
We have a lauded youth set up which the manager has zero faith in, by the looks of it. I can't see where scullion would fit in, h ence why he doesn't play.
Will Thomas Orr come back and play? Doubt it. So what is the point of this youth set up?
There are no young midfielders even quoted. Hence why tam oware is an option there.
I fear next season will be 2013-14 again, due to the raft of new players needed, while falkirk, qots, raith, dunfermline have settled teams to build on.
We start next season competing with livvie, Dumbarton as out direct opposition. Zero progress.

What reaction does the club expect from fans much more loyal than myself, in terms of turning up at games home and away?

Any division of fans is down to decisions made by the club. It's not even happy clappers and knicker wetters against each other.
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Posted 27 March 2016 - 02:05 AM

Could this be the start of the wetter-clapper alliance?

Strange bedfellows.

(but aye, good post - it's not that we're especially awful or that this season was particularly bad; it's just that right now it's difficult to see where improvement will come from. Fears of a 2013-14 might be a bit much because I think that for one thing we'll have a dece budget and two Duffy isn't going to just buy random mank off the back of an agent lorry. Well, some League Two dung, aye, but we won't start the season with the likes of Cham and Page in the first eleven.)

Edited by nach0king, 27 March 2016 - 02:11 AM.

Now before Gavin goes, I'd like to ask him one more question.


Do you like Abba?