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#1066201 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by dunning1874 on 12 May 2017 - 11:58 AM

Maybe that's exactly what you should do, sit down and have a pint with him.


You'd possibly then see it all in a different light once you've heard it all from the horses mouth.


That's exactly the point though, isn't it? How can people see it all in different light?


I'm guessing that the vast majority of people broadly agree with LargsTON and CHC on the case: they don't know the truth of what happened and had no personal involvement, they back no side in the case and accordingly they don't view Jim Gallagher or the Trust much differently on the back of it.


However, that's simply not all there is to it, because the behaviour of you and your master is an issue above and beyond the outcome of the case. Regardless of the rights and wrongs of the court case, the way your master has conducted himself - that's him specifically, independently of JG - is absolutely disgraceful and even if the case had gone entirely, 100%, unequivocally in JG's favour, it wouldn't change that fact.


Sitting down for a pint with Jim as you suggest and hearing his whole side of things wouldn't change the facts of how your master behaved outwith the realms of the case. It's not about the rights and wrongs of the case, it's about everyone seeing through his behaviour that Newall is an absolutely despicable human being. Do you really, truly, honestly, not see why people view him (and by extension yourself) that way?

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#1060083 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by TRVMP on 10 March 2017 - 10:41 PM

Ed meant to green dot it, he said. Fair enough, we've all had a slip of the fingers once.
Twice in a row, that would be a bit weird.
Three times? Now that's pushing it. Surely not.
Four? You're having a laugh. There's no way that's an accident.

That would be four "accidental" red 'uns, then, in the space of a few hours, all on the same topic, all on the same guy, from the world champion of empathy and the CEO of Caring about Other Peoples' Maws, Incorporated.
And apparently some people wonder why I don't believe anything this clown has to say.
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#1082487 2017 - 2018 - Championship Updates And Scores

Posted by dunning1874 on 12 January 2018 - 03:37 PM

No no this can't be right, the Morton support is actually the most negative in the world to the extent that fans have directly caused defeats with the force of their criticism and even dissuaded players from signing for the club.

As Italian fans protest outside training sessions and smash their own players' cars in response to defeats; as fans in Sweden invade the pitch to assault players in response to relegation; as players in Mali need to be rescued by police after barricading themselves in the dressing room to keep out a rioting mob on the rampage trying to set fire to the stadium; all around the world, players in these terrifying situations still find the time to breathe a sigh of relief that they don't have to face the horrors of the Morton support.

A Togolese footballer sprinting off the pitch to escape a knife wielding pitch invader can be thankful he never had to go through the torment Kudus Oyenuga and Stewart Kean faced when someone said on a forum they'd never even read that he was a desperate panic-buy based on his track record. The Croats removing the rocks thrown through their windows of their houses by their own supporters allow themselves a wry smile, safe in the knowledge they didn't have to endure an ordeal like being booed off by the Cowshed while losing at half-time or hearing someone scream a blood-curdling obscenity like 'That's pish, don't let it bounce'. The club owners in Argentina forced to hand over money to hooligan groups under threat of violence are eternally grateful that they don't have to face something as unbearable as the chant of 'sack the board'.

You should all be ashamed of yourselves for suggesting that we're anything but the most intolerant fanbase in the world, frankly.
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#1077005 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by TonInDublin on 19 October 2017 - 11:12 AM



With one or two exceptions however, that good-will evaporated when he chose Ernie and Gordon as his cheerleaders, for obvious reasons. IMO that was JG's single biggest mistake.


Something I have shared with Jim on more than one occasion, most recently after we met in Greenock and then subsequently traded a few mails.

I remember at one point Ernie actually turning against Jim on his blog, with a whole pile of horrible slurs, and then when Jim came back to whatever position Ernie wanted, he gave it the whole "Willow is back on-board" stuff. 


So irrespective of who was right or wrong in the original case - the behaviour of Dr Newall, Mr McGregor,  and latterly Mr Dyer is absolutely unforgivable given their targetting of family members, thinly veiled threats of legal action, thinly veiled allegations of homosexuality and paedophilia, and their use of personal family pictures to further an agenda that pretty much all of the people they targeted weren't involved in - especially Mr McGregor and Mr Mr Newall themselves - can't speak as to whether Gordon was at the night in question or not -  but those two gentlemen weren't - nor were they Trust members. It's abhorrent behaviour and can never be excused. 

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#1079026 Grangemouth Vs Morton

Posted by BishopLenBrennan on 22 November 2017 - 05:20 PM

Get these Government funded **** hounded and relegated. 

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#1077823 Stars Of 79

Posted by LargsTON on 29 October 2017 - 09:39 AM

I finally met LinwoodTon yesterday at half time and fair play to him for having the balls to front up. As of now I'm done with it all. No more slagging, no more bitching and no more petty point scoring. I've told Gordon id ask the clique to cease with digs at him and Ernie and the flip side is the blog will stop immediately in return. Whether or not everyone accepts to move on or not is outwith my hands now but it's been 8 years and I've had enough. I'm out.
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#1076999 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by capitanus on 18 October 2017 - 10:46 PM

Don't disagree with any of that, but IMO there were faults on the Trust's side as well. None of that justified the publishing of family photos and targeting of relatives (dead and alive) who had absolutely nothing to do with the whole murky affair, of course.

Of course there were, however let's look at some of those from the GMST that Ernie Newall has been targeting with his online hate campaign over the years, including people like Paul Gill, Deego, Alan Feeney, Nick Robinson, Claire Melville, Mary Sellars, Laura Wohlgemuth and more. None of these people had any connection with the Stars of 79 night, however they are decent folk and Morton supporters and wanted to get involved in something they thought was a worthwhile cause. Did any of these folk deserve to be the object of that creepy old bastards vitriol as a result of what previous office bearers at the GMST had done? There is only one correct answer here.

I seen what happened first hand back then, and it was messy. Two prominent members of the GMST board tried to use this forum as a kangaroo court expecting JG to roll over like Arthur Fowler and confess to whatever he was accused of. The only problem was that JG didn't agree to that. However, what JG was accused of became a side issue for a real nasty piece of s*** to pursue numerous vendetta's against many in the Morton support, as you well know, including many who have nothing to do with the event or its fall-out, but consider the guy to be an arsehole. Myself included.

Edit to add:

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#1075935 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by capitanus on 30 September 2017 - 10:31 AM


:lol: :lol:
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#1065930 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by Toby on 10 May 2017 - 06:09 PM

So, how much has the groomer missed out on then?



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#1065315 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by Deano1874 on 05 May 2017 - 04:54 PM

Remember the time some of the roasters in here formed 'the clique' to hound Ed and me off the board.


We're still here.  :bouncy:  :bouncy:  :bouncy:  :bouncy:


Remember the time your sense of self-worth was overshot by such a distance that you thought a group of pals formed and existed to hound a degenerate alky Doctor's very own Smithers off an internet forum? 


Don't flatter yourself, lapdog.



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#1065084 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by K K Kelbie on 30 April 2017 - 07:11 PM

Success clearly follows Sir Gav and not just at the bookies.

You address Him by His proper title, you little bollocks.

Red dot.
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#1061654 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by capitanus on 26 March 2017 - 03:21 PM

I don't know who you're trying to convince here. You weren't there and whoever has told you what happened on the day has misled you. I don't need to be told anything, I can read all I need to know with my own eyes.
1. As I said in an earlier post, it wasn't delayed because of Ernie's hearing problems. That's a complete fabrication.
2. The Trust have tried to have their OWN case dismissed on at least seven (7) separate occasions. Hardly the actions of people more than willing to have their evidence heard in court.
3. The Trust Deed did delay matters but only because the Trust chose to go down that route. JG's Trustee stated that he was not interested in the court case and was happy for it to continue. JG's people put up a bond to cover any losses to guarantee the Trust payment if they were successful. But the Trust chose to make a claim on the Trust Deed instead of continuing with their own action. If the Trust had continued with the action, and won, they would have recovered all of the claim as well as costs awarded by the court. THIS AMOUNT WAS COVERED BY THE BOND. Instead the Trust CHOSE to go with the Trust Deed with the likelihood of recovering less than £200 if successful. For the record, the Trusts claim on JG's Trust Deed was rejected by the Trustee for "insufficient evidence".
4. Not according to the Trusts own constitution, Supporters Direct Scotland and a top Glasgow law firm.
5. There are many people have been fooled by all this. I am not one of them.  :)


Bob knew within days that it was me who pulled the red wig photo. I told him it was me.
I still don't have a blog Davie.


I agree. It was a lovely day in Manchester yesterday, at least it was when I was there early afternoon.  :)


Talking of photographs, what happened to your profile pic?


Time was against me yesterday Davie. I don't drink but I'll happily sip a coffee with you when you're in town. Give me a shout.  :thumbup2:


That is a wee shame. You could have had people thinking you were tall, dark and handsome, instead of tall, light and seething.  :)


I'm sure it's something two grown men can sort out over coffee.  :)

Looks like it's game, set and match to Davie here.

All of the above just read like blubbering drivel from a complete pathetic joke of a grown man.

I take it back, you aren't a snake. Even a snake would know when to slither away and not return. You are too ****ing thick to be a snake.
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#1059847 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by capitanus on 08 March 2017 - 06:58 PM

And in other news, does anyone see an uncanny resemblance between old Mentalfag and former TV Presenter and convicted Paedophile, Stuart Hall:


No doubt we'll hear 'It's a knockout' when any one of a number of folk from here eventually catch up with him.

:lol: :lol:
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#1083298 Is It Time For The Rae Family To Move Step Aside?

Posted by dunning1874 on 18 January 2018 - 10:17 AM

I mentioned last weekend that I felt that Morton are being 'downsized' by stealth.
The current situation of Morton looks similar to that of Clyde around 10-12 years ago in their Dougie Imrie era, when they were riding high in the first division only to find themselves floundering in the bottom league a couple of seasons later.
With all these cost-cutting exercises, plus youth for the sake of it, dwindling support, alienation, apathy and disillusion amongst the support; an owner who looks like he's given up etc.
Don't be surprised if we end up just like Clyde in 5 years time.

A less drastic fall than Clyde but nevertheless a club that had a massive collapse from where they looked like they had the potential to be is Airdrie United. They were a full time side when they won promotion ahead of us in 2003/04, with an average attendance of 1800. Their attendance grew in their first season up, then it fell year on year as it became clear they were never going to progress beyond battling relegation. When they did go back down to the third tier they immediately went part-time.

They've been in the second tier three times since and every time they've been relegated, with the Chairman simply saying that Airdrie can't be expected to do better than that. The managers who got them up deserve their chance to keep them up and if they fail, it was all that could be expected for a club like Airdrie; despite the fact their last season in this division saw Dumbarton go from being adrift at the bottom with five points in December to finishing 7th, 9 points clear of 9th and 21 ahead of 10th placed Airdrie thanks to a managerial change.

Airdrie fans took to referring to this as a 'managed decline', where a Chairman obsessed with sustainability couldn't see the wood for the trees and condemned the club to operating at a level where sustainability became impossible as a result. Having entered that spiral of decline, they've only made the promotion playoffs once in their four seasons back down and their average attendances are now comfortably under 1000.

A Chairman who was once seen by their fans as a hero for saving the club (of course this is an incorrect description in Airdrie's case as they died) mismanaged the club so badly over the course of 15 years that he destroyed his legacy by squandering any potential they had. When new owners took over at the start of this month and Jim Ballantyne's long relationship with the club was brought to an end, the overwhelming reaction of Airdrie fans was 'Good ****ing riddance', and rejoicing that he couldn't do any more damage after they spent the start of this season fighting to avoid administration while Ballantyne issued club statements left right and centre accusing fans and journalists of vendettas against him.

There's a cautionary tale for the Raes in there. It's not too late for Douglas' long-term legacy to be salvaged as the man who will be historically remembered for saving the club post-administration, even if those of us who've lived through the 17 years since will remember it as mostly being utter s***e, but time is running out for that. If things get as bad as we fear with the plan of the bulk of the starting eleven coming from the academy when those players clearly aren't ready for first team football being realised and we find ourselves in even the best case scenario of being an Ayr United style yo-yo club with no hope of improvement, he'll be remembered as the man who condemned the club to that existence when even basic competence in the boardroom could have given us so much better. If we fall further than that to the Airdrie or Clyde level, he'll be viewed in an even poorer light.

It's remarkable that we've reached this point considering the goodwill he had in his first few years in charge, but it's testament to his own incompetence rather than any impatience on the part of the fanbase - indeed it's a sign of how ridiculously patient and trusting most Morton fans are that he's still able to live off the goodwill he rightfully earned 17 years ago despite doing just about nothing right since.
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#1077435 Season Tickets

Posted by dunning1874 on 24 October 2017 - 11:34 AM

It's natural that we focus on how it affects us as Morton fans, and of course it's the loyalty of Morton fans that the club needs to earn and keep so that should be their main concern as well, but I actually think it's the approach to away fans which is the biggest indication that no one at the club has even begun to think things through or see how this looks from the perspective of fans.

For a start, when they were clinging to the £2 charge before the system was even operational, they also did it for away fans v Livingston. Now, of course we all know that the £2 charge is a stupid idea even if the turnstiles and website were actually working properly, and the fact that they pressed ahead with the charge before the website was even operational was appalling regardless of the fact they later turned round and suspended it, but charging it to away fans as well just betrays a complete lack of understanding of anything about football fans.

Absolutely no away fan is ever going to turn up at the opposition ground more than two hours before kick-off. At least some Morton fans get the opportunity to purchase their tickets in person through the week, and a few who live in the vicinity of Cappielow may have even had the chance to pop down to the ground on the day of the game - of course, this exposes the club's complete lack of understanding or empathy for out of town Morton fans as well - but away fans? At least we - ostensibly, however many years in the future the website actually works - will have the opportunity to buy tickets in advance, but they'll never be able to do it online, they obviously can't nip down to Smiths or Cappielow during the week. If Falkirk, Livingston or Dunfermline did that to us we would be absolutely raging about it and we'd be expecting the club to speak up on our behalf in the hope of getting them to scrap this preposterous idea. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Then, other than the £2 charge, there's the issue of the massive queues we saw at the ticket office on Saturday. They've suspended the extra £2 charge, but they're still expecting away fans to join the queue for the ticket office. By this point everyone attending Cappielow as a home fan would prefer that we still had cash turnstiles, but the club have made their bed and they are going to force us to lie in it if we still want to support Morton: they'd rather make us suffer than write-off this expensive disaster. That's the reality of the situation and Morton fans will never again enter the ground through any other means than the electronic turnstiles. Fine, hopefully that means they're going to eventually get a system that works properly and doesn't inconvenience supporters, even if it takes decades to get that far.

However, we do still have cash turnstiles at the ground. Cash turnstiles which provide access to the away end, even when the away support is in the main stand. Use them. Even if it's a relatively small away support, as it was on Saturday, you're going to be considerably reducing the number of fans queuing up at the ticket booth between 2:30 and 3:00. Use the Wee Dublin End turnstiles as PATG for away fans in every game regardless of the size of the away support, and the number queuing for tickets in that last half hour before kick-off at the main stand is going to be reduced by hundreds on average. This will, in turn, considerably reduce the queues for Morton fans and should mean fewer people take one look at the queue and decide they'll just go home instead.

Hibs, Dunfermline, St Mirren and Queen of the South all require fans to purchase a ticket before going to the turnstiles. All of those clubs have dedicated ticket offices for away fans only. When we won 3-0 at Easter Road I was late into the ground because Hibs only had two people at the away ticket office and they couldn't cope with a relatively small Morton support. Yet at Cappielow on Saturday they were using one ticket office for the entire stadium. If you have five people trying to process the entire stadium, even with a crowd under 1500, of course they can't get in time.

Of course, as the queue this weekend was at the ticket office while the turnstiles had no queues whatsoever, the club are no doubt going to look at that and decide the solution to the problem is to reinstate the £2 charge, as this will encourage people to purchase tickets before the day and reduce the queue. In reality, people are just going to stop turning up if they can't guarantee they'll make it before the day. The correct way to make this work is to divert the away fans to cash turnstiles and expand the ticket office at the ground to provide more ticket sellers, while scrapping the £2 charge permanently. The bulk of attendees are always, always going to turn up on the day to buy their tickets there, this is simply a fact which you're not going to change. Morton have a responsibility to provide a service acceptable to supporters and that includes giving them a chance to actually get in the ground on time having turned up an entirely reasonable 10 minutes before kick-off.

You'll note that none of the other clubs who require tickets to be purchased from an office/booth before going to the turnstiles charge a surplus based on when fans buy the ticket. That's because penalising people to try and force them to buy tickets early is only going to stop all but the most diehard fans attending rather than reducing queues. Some people can't guarantee their attendance if they don't live in the area, some people work Saturdays and won't know until the day if they can get away on time, some people are just fairweather and only go to a game when they feel like it, which is fine. When you punish them for that, they'll just ask why they should bother and chuck it.

Electronic turnstiles are, by themselves, a perfectly fine idea. It's just a shame the company we've got couldn't get them working until three months into the season. A website to buy tickets is a good idea. It's just a shame the company we got to do it can't design a website and it still isn't working at the end of October. Allowing fans to buy tickets in advance is a good thing and doing so with a fan card that allows fans to register is also a good thing, it's just a shame the club have absolutely no understanding of their fanbase whatsoever and came up with the absolutely outrageous idea to charge extra if you choose not to buy in advance.

For all the problems, this can still be made to work. Electronic turnstiles don't have to be broken, the website doesn't have to be a mess, the club don't have to spit in our faces by charging extra for buying on the day. Having a functioning website with the majority of fans registered would be a really good step. The club could have a database of all their fans to hand which allows them to easily target specific types of fan with commercial/marketing emails. If we were ever to progress to the top flight and find ourselves regularly having all-ticket away games we could do away tickets through the website as well, and linking that to fan cards would allow the club to start operating a points system for all-ticket games, with regular attendees getting priority if we were ever in the position of selling out away allocations. Lots of good can still come of this system and there's no reason it has to continue being the shambles it's been so far, but it's incumbent on the club to show the willingness to fix it.
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#1077075 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by Captain Rex Kramer on 20 October 2017 - 11:34 PM



















'Failed attempt to win a trip to Salou'




'Giving Merrydown Mhairi her hauners while your groomer slinks off instead'






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#1077011 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by Uncle Joe Stalin on 19 October 2017 - 02:31 PM

Regarding the court case, Jim certainly did win.

Now that he's settled up with his backer, hopefully he'll now raise a separate action to recover his costs.






Web site announcement of 11 October 2017 clearly refers to “budding designers of all ages”

And four numpties green dotted this!
Sweet hubris!






A combined 12,000 red dots and gulaging of these kulak scum.



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#1069180 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by K K Kelbie on 14 June 2017 - 08:13 AM

Funnily enough, nobody has ever been able to explain what grooming has taken place or even for what purpose.


I guess the masters haven't explained that to all the minions yet.  :blink:


Fail. It was all set out on the evening when you shat out of attending the home play-off match r attending to The Norseman - spending it wiping drool, tears and snotters from your financially ruined, jakey groomer's chin instead. 



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#1061681 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by what a stramash on 27 March 2017 - 11:52 AM

Excellent post TonInDublin. While this probably won't be as succinct or eloquent a post as that of yours, this latest laugh a word post from groomed gimp, can't go unanswered :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

58 posts and 117 pages of reputation given, the majority to myself.
I think I can confidently say who the seething one is.  :1eye:
I've never quite worked out who you are but the closer we've got to the conclusion of the court case, the more posts you've made towards me. It's a dead give away that you're connected in some way to the night itself.
Probably one of about four or five is my guess.  :)

I miss the days gone by where you'd send me countless PM's, desperate and seething and abusive to me, as you were convinced I was a certain someone. The fact I never replied once, only increased your rage and levels of PM content.
Seething, me? Not one iota.
Laughing at you?, yes.
You've been a seething mess from the moment you drew your first breath I'd say.

You're an embarrassment - to yourself, your (long suffering) family, the Morton support - even your groomer can now be seen to be raging and embarrassed at your now permanent failure to successfully reach a conclusion he desires whenever he barks and hands you the rover gimp mask, as evidenced by the disgraceful blog and it's increasingly bizarre posts, content and targets, and the upward surge in weekly and daily post counts.
The fact that you and your groomer trawl the internet, lift and adapt personal pictures, information, is in itself, reprehensible and downright dickhead scumbaggery.
That's without going into the fact of using private pictures, ones with kids, or other loved ones, let alone departed loved ones, and then using these facts as an excuse for more posts and attacks on individuals - that is way way beyond dickhead scumbaggery.
Even whether pictures are private or not, is not an argument, or a defence - some of the pictures used and the context in what they contain or are from and mean to owners of such pictures, to be adapted and played (and preyed) upon by two old creepy sad sacks with mental ages of two four year olds, it sums it all up your moral compass and what levels of morals you and your groomer have.
You're not Morton fans.
You're not even worthy of being called human beings.

As for the blog itself, how that thing exists, is allowed to exist, is mind boggling in itself. You do know, at some point in the future, someone could, for example, go to town on it and have numerous defamation of character lawsuits and sue the hell out of not just your groomer but you too, you don't think your going to get ruined even more? You think he's going to take all the rap himself and leave you out it if and when, any form of retribution is sought to be addressed? You think you're anonymous, untouchable, unknown? You don't know a thing son, you don't have a scooby. Like your groomer, you flail and fail, always have, always will.

As for who I am, it's none of your business, it's irrelevant. Just like you.

I may be one of four or five, or not, or maybe someone connected to that night, or maybe not. I could be a neighbour, your brother, son (I'm not thankfully - or am I double bluffing here?, it f*cks with your head doesn't it you nonce), your counsellor, your enemy, your friend (lets face it, you don't have many at all do you), someone you've never met, or someone you see on a almost daily, or is it weekly, or fortnightly, basis. I know, you don't, and that gets on your tits.

Back in your box. Back in your gimp mask.
Assume the position Dickhead.
Master Groomer Daddy will no doubt be barking again soon.

And since you seem to like counting, have another RD, just for the fun of it. DH.
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#1060238 Greenockmorton.org In Visual Form

Posted by Uncle Joe Stalin on 12 March 2017 - 01:08 AM

No imagination required, I am me.  :thumbup2:


No - you're just the finger puppet of some gormless, alcoholic jakey. Sit down and shut up.



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