I think this point of lacking a suitable camera position for live games should be pretty high in the order of considerations for the ground ahead of next season - even if we don't go up, but doubly so if we do. Shutting off a large, central portion of the Cowshed must confound the already reduced numbers for televised games, putting off people who would normally occupy that area.
Indeed. It's been a couple of years of increased TV games now, really poor that nothing has been sorted yet. Displacing a large portion of the cowshed, and deeming another large portion as restricted view', has surely further dented crowds for these games. Many supporters stand in the same place every week so really don't like being displaced.
I know they want the main stand on camera view rather than the shed, but that's a poor reason for not just putting cameras above the dugouts which would have very limited impact on the view for those in that area.
It's telling when, without looking at poster names, you can instantly tell who a post came from due to the level of drivel it contains.
Here we are at a time where most threads are oozing positivity or ones like this trying to provide meaningful suggestions to help the club capitalise on it and you have decided to surface from your hole and throw some pathetic jibes at other supporters rather than get involved in the positivity.
Supporters who criticise when things are going badly to say something needs changed is one thing, but supported who bring negativity and try to escalate divisions when everyone else is positive are` far more cancerous than the former.
Bit of a dilemma game coming up this weekend, what do you want the outcome to be in the Hibernian Falkirk game?
I feel a draw would be best for our 2nd/1st place ambitions although would a win be better for either side considering our game in hand, if so who would the win be better for? Hibs?
The vast majority of games in the league are dilemma games right now with our eyes drifting between the top and bottom of the league. A draw in most games is preferable.
However, our playoff spot is now pretty much secured. Yes, finishing 2nd is far more beneficial than 4th as far as our chances of getting through the playoffs are concerned. But we don't get many chances to really challenge for this title, and we very much are in with a shout of it therefore the only logical outcome to hope for is for Hibs to continue to stumble and in as bad a way as possible.
So a Falkirk victory would be preferable. Our number 1 priority though is doing our own business and that means beating Dunfermline at Cappielow to stretch our undefeated run at Cappielow to an entire year, then it's bring on the Hibs in a MASSIVE game next Wednesday.
The crowds are indeed poor. Would have expected a bigger upturn by now. More needs to be done to encourage them back. Pleading to the fans that are going (bring a friend etc) is not the answer. More (something) needs to be done to target those that aren't going.
Think a lack of sensible pricing will certainly be an issue for some, obviously for away games, factored in with getting there etc.
Bring a friend next week IMO.
Pricing is such an important point. Checking the scores and seeing Morton are winning is not enough to entice people back with the costs involved these days, they need to be targeted and incentivised to come along and give it a go.
Who was it we were playing recently that did a 'season ticket holders can bring a friend for a tenner' or something like that offer? Would be interesting to see if that sort of offer had any impact. That's a meaningful way to ask people to bring a friend.
I really don't know as the team is doing everything that they can to get the punters in.
The people we need to attract are not seeing those performances though therefore it's having little impact on enticing them back. They'll check the scores and see Morton won 1-0 or 2-1 again, they won't know what the performance levels are like, team spirit is like and won't necessarily be enticed back. If we were thumping every team 5-0, maybe. People will be like 'oh, Morton are doing well. If they get to a decider/playoff final I might go along for that).
Our last home game was our smallest gate of the season.
I think the last 2 games being on alba and being late kick offs have had an impact on the crowd.
I wouldn't dismiss Alba straight away, I'd say that's been the main reason for low crowds the last 2 games, the home crowds were slowly getting bigger up till last week.
Alba is a huge consideration. Smallest home gate of the season last week. Late kick offs won't appeal to some, others will want to watch from home and save the money when they get the chance. Also, it probably affects us even more as we probably lose a chunk of the regulars who are displeased at the massive camera gantry deeming most of the cowshed obsolete. Most people stand in the same place every week so are annoyed to be displaced, then it can be a fight to find somewhere to stand that's not a severely obstructed view.
The fact that this has not been sorted a few years down the line smacks of the club thinking 'we don't care that we're inconveniencing a large proportion of our fans'. There's trying to attract more fans then there's the polar opposite which is inconveniencing those that do attend.
For the Queens game. Queens were always going to bring a support that they could count on their 12 fingers and 12 toes. So they were never going to use the WDE. Why didn't the club, knowing a large part of the shed would be obstructed as usual, trial open the WDE to Morton fans to see if that was an option that was likely to be of value?
Also, I mentioned above that potential fans aren't seeing our performances. I believe Alba is a huge barrier to that too. We're on TV but being serious, the only people likely to watch it will be those that are already invested in going who maybe can't make that game (or choose to save the cash that day). Potential fans probably won't even know it's on the tele and even if they did, they're probably unlikely to tune in to watch a live game without commentary (which is what it really is because the mute button will more than likely be pressed).
'Insert the previous embarrassing stats about the club not having any highlights provision here'.
I think it's going to take a lot of effort from the club to get people back to games as well though. They're doing really well with the community stuff and getting hospitality sold out most weeks but there's not much of an effort to get fans through the gates each week. Simple things like the "gunning for glory" posters being shared regularly all over social media and in the local paper etc in the run up to games would help a lot.
It's all down to the club. Even now the noises emanating from the boardroom don't suggest the club are craving promotion. If the board aren't serious the stay away fans won't be convinced to come back. Having said that I expect a large increase next week.
Indeed, the club itself needs to do more. On one hand, they need to be marketing matches to try and entice fans to come along. We need to get out of the mentality that these are lapsed fans that would maybe drift back at some point. They aren't. They are LOST fans. They need to be treated as new fans to win and therefore we have to market to them to try to get them through the gates.
The community trust stuff is great to position the club as an important part of the community and try to develop the future fans with the kids teams, but any business has to market to attract customers in the here and now. The commercial side seem to be doing well but that's not the be all and end all. All the marketing at the moment seems to be aimed at the commercial side.
A good way to start would be to show some signs that you have aspirations of moving up. The fans that do go have gone from aiming for the playoffs to aiming for the title. The club have mentioned we're aiming for the playoffs (although, usually listed more for the financial gain than the aspirations of going up). The only actual commentary about promotion has been an interview with Warren where he talked about us not being ready yet.
A few statements of intent - 'we are aiming to go up, that is and will remain our target until we achieve it - this season, next season, the one after...'.
Does there have to be logic? Just stating how good our home record is in comparison to teams with notoriously good home records themselves.
There doesn't, although, even the explanation you gave would have been handy on the list. People were interpreting it as if they were saying 'here's the current top runs' leading to people chipping back with 'Copenhagen's is longer' 'Juve's is longer'. Was just a weird list without explanation.
Taking nothing away from the run. Hopefully we get lots of publicity for making it a whole year then hope to stretch it to the end of the season.
I don't think any SPL side would offer Duffy a job tbh. His stock is really high among the media because he does a fair bit of that kind of work and seems a decent guy. Other than that the last 10 years of his career haven't exactly been glittering.
I'm delighted with the job he's done for us (and the football we're playing) but in terms of achievement Morton are sitting where they should be.
Stopped reading at 'SPL' which was enough to deem your point negligible.